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30 Jan 2008 10:38 PM  
Hello,

I bought FormMaster partly so I can use an AWeber autoresponder with my DNN site. I read about silent posting and it appears that some things may have changed in version 1.6 of FM. (I am using DNN 4.08).

AWeber gives you code that looks like:

(okay I edited this to remove greater than and less than signs, so the editor won't think it's HTML)

centerform method="post" action="http://www.aweber.com/scripts/addlead.pl"

input type="hidden" name="meta_web_form_id" value="12345"

input type="hidden" name="meta_split_id" value=""

input type="hidden" name="unit" value="mylist"

input type="hidden" name="redirect" value="http://www.aweber.com/form/thankyou_vo.html"

input type="hidden" name="meta_redirect_onlist" value=""

input type="hidden" name="meta_adtracking" value=""

input type="hidden" name="meta_message" value="1"

input type="hidden" name="meta_required" value="from"

input type="hidden" name="meta_forward_vars" value="0"

table

trtd colspan=2center/center/td/tr

trtdEmail:/tdtdinput type="text" name="from" value="" size="20"/td/tr

trtdName:/tdtdinput type="text" name="name" value="" size="20"/td/tr

trtd align="center" colspan="2"input type="submit" name="submit" value="Submit"/td/tr

/table

/form/center



 

So, given that...

Obviously, in FormMaster I create text fields for the email and name, but do I create hidden fields on my form for the AWeber hidden fields (input type="hidden" name="...) and then do a "silent URL" of http://www.aweber.com/scripts/addlead.pl

Or do I have to do the whole XML export/import thing? If that is the case, is there a sample export from an AWeber form I can look at? I don't know anything about SalesForce, so I don't know what applies and what doesn't.

Thanks for your help!

Susan Daffron
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31 Jan 2008 01:00 AM  
Okay I have been struggling with this for hours. I did the whole sample thing with the XML import etc. compared every single setting on every single field and it's not helping.

All my fields are set to silent post and I've put in the AWeber URL. But nothing seems to get to AWeber.

I'm out of ideas...

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31 Jan 2008 07:13 PM  
Hi,

Did you had a look at this
http://www.code5systems.com/Support...fault.aspx

Thanks & Regards,
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31 Jan 2008 07:27 PM  
Hi Sujay,

Thanks for the reply. Actually, I did import the sample module stared at it for a long, long time endlessly comparing settings. Unfortunately, it's not completely applicable to AWeber.

Fortunately, I'm married to a programmer and after I gave up, he figured it out ;-)

For anyone else who has this problem, the steps are:

1. On all the fields (hidden and not), make sure that "Send Value By" is set to Silent Post and in Value Name place the text that follows "name=" in the AWeber code.
2. Don't create fields for the redirect or any blank entries. (where the value is ""). The redirect won't work going to AWeber; you have to redirect back to a page on your DNN site, which you set up in FormMaster.
3. Don't use the meta_required field in AWeber. Do the validation in Form Master.
4. Make sure you include the post URL in the Silent Post area of Other Settings.
5. Make sure you have your SMTP set up in the host admin, or you'll get an SMTP error.

I hope that helps someone. When I did a search it appeared that others had problems with this!

Thanks,

Susan
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20 Feb 2008 07:38 PM  

(UPDATED TO REMOVE HTML)

Susan - thanks for posting your solution, as I too have been "struggling with this for hours".  However, I think I have done all you suggested but I can't get things working.  A few questions if you don't mind helping...

My AWeber html is as follows:

center form method="post" action="http://www.aweber.com/scripts/addlead.pl" target="_new"

input type="hidden" name="meta_web_form_id" value="1x3x1x8x18"

input type="hidden" name="meta_split_id" value=""

input type="hidden" name="unit" value="tmakick"

input type="hidden" name="redirect" value=WWW.MYSITE.XXX

input type="hidden" name="meta_redirect_onlist" value=http://www.MYSITE.XXX

input type="hidden" name="meta_adtracking" value="Cardio Kickboxing"

input type="hidden" name="meta_message" value="1"

input type="hidden" name="meta_required" value="from"

input type="hidden" name="meta_forward_vars" value="0"

table

tr td colspan=2 center /center /td /tr

tr td>Email: /td td input type="text" name="from" value="" size="20" /td /tr

tr td>Full Name: /td td input type="text" name="name" value="" size="20" /td /tr

tr td align="center" colspan="2" input type="submit" name="submit" value="Submit" /td /tr

/table

/form /center


 


I created fields in Form Master for all of the fields I have underlined above and set Silent Post with Value name equal to all that follows name=.  So for the first field, "Meta Web Form ID", I had value name of "meta_web_form_id" value="1x3x1x8x18"

I then went to "Other Settings" and set the post URL in Silent Post to:   http://aweber.com/scripts/addlead.pl



The info never makes it into AWeber.  Do you have any ideas?  Thanks, as I have been pulling my hair out over this one.

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20 Feb 2008 07:45 PM  
Hi,

Can you give me the url of your page.

Thanks & Regards,
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20 Feb 2008 08:06 PM  

Hi David,

For meta_web_form_id, here's what I have. In Form Master, make sure is is set to Hidden under Type in FM. Place a checkmark next to Exclude from Email and Data.

Under Autofill, set to none and make your Default Text be the number next to meta Web form id.

Under Send Value by Options, click Silent Post and next to Value Name put meta_web_form_id

Another thing I noticed is that you have a "meta_required" field. Don't do the validation in AWeber. Use the validation in Form Master (under Validators) on your "from" field.

It's also possible that you won't be able to use the Ad Tracking. (I've never used that feature.) But anything that needs a return from AWeber to work *won't* work. All you can do is a form post to AWeber.

The fields I have are:
meta_web_form_id (hidden)
unit (hidden)
meta_message (hidden)
meta_forward_vars (hidden)
Email*
Name*
(*set to required using Form Master validation)

I hope that helps!

FYI, our DNN site with an actual working AWeber form is here:


- Susan

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20 Feb 2008 08:45 PM  

Thank you!!!!  That did it.  I was putting the name AND value in the value name field.....  duhhhhh......  :-)

I have the list verification turned off in AWeber but i noticed when I submit the form via Form Master AWeber asks me to "verify" that I want to opt-in to the list with a verification email.  Do you experience the same?

 

Thanks a lot for your help!!!

-Dave

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20 Feb 2008 11:07 PM  

Hi David,

I'm glad it worked!

All my lists are set to double opt-in, so yeah, everyone gets a verification email. I set up a "thank you" page on the DNN site that AWeber redirects to that explains people NEED to click the link or they aren't subscribed.



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05 Mar 2008 01:02 AM  

Hi Susan,

In addition to adding people to aweber, how do you handle adding users who sign up on your Join Now page as a DNN user so they can log into the member parts of the site?

Steve V

 

 

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05 Mar 2008 04:06 PM  

Hi Steve,

Actually, I don't have it integrated with the built-in DNN User Registration stuff at all. I let people choose their own username and password in the FormMaster form and then enter them manually myself later into DNN, after they've paid. (So in the security settings, User Registration is set to None...and you'll notice there's not a "register" link on the site, just a log in link.)

I tried setting up the DNN built-in user registration features and made an unbelievably horrible mess because I wanted to capture so much information. It was easier to use the FormMaster form instead. Eventually, I might figure out how to link the two, but for now, it's a lot easier to just type it in the user log in info myself.

I'm sure someone else has figured out some slick solution, but not me. Like I said, I'm not a programmer and it was all beyond what I could figure out from Dot Net Nuke for Dummies  ;-)

- Susan

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19 Mar 2008 09:26 PM  
Sorry to resurrect an older thead but I didn't see any other topics that applied.

I am trying to integrate Salesforce into DNN for a client and downloaded the demo version of the module to test it out.

Am I not able to upload the xml document that was linked above in the demo version, or am I missing something?
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19 Mar 2008 09:34 PM  
Hi,

what problem you are facing?

Thanks & Regards,
Sujay
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19 Mar 2008 09:37 PM  
I downloaded the xml sample "content.FormMaster.SalesForce.xml" and, well, I'm just not sure what to do with it. I assume I import it, but I can't find where to do this.
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19 Mar 2008 09:43 PM  
Hi Jason,

Please check this
http://www.code5systems.com/Support...fault.aspx

Thanks & Regards,
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19 Mar 2008 11:02 PM  

Going back to the original problem, as it turns out AWeber doesn't let you do this after all. The FormMaster silent post is a bust.

Technically, you can do it for a while. But here, it says no:



What happens it seems is that it works for a while. But then AWeber notices that all your posts are coming from the same IP address.

Then it stops working.

This just happened to us, which is a very, very large pain. We're somehow going to have to integrate just ONE pure HTML page on our DNN site to keep AWeber happy.

- Susan

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19 Mar 2008 11:31 PM  
Too bad. I suppose most of these types of services will adopt this after a while.

I guess the Silent Post will not be as useful for these purposes going forward.


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19 Mar 2008 11:53 PM  
Use iContac.comt, they allow the use of Form Master, been using them for over a year with no problems

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20 Mar 2008 03:36 AM  

Susan had helped me get this working with aWeber but I dropped them and went with iContact for many reasons.  It works perfectly with iContact.  The main problem I found with aWeber is that if you have a list of contacts that you have been emailing and then put them into aWeber, they have to opt-in to the aWeber list again.  This seems like a real nice way to tick off your existing contacts and lose them.  iContact has a much better interface and I am extremely happy with their service.

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21 Mar 2008 12:27 AM  
Yeah, if I didn't have so many lists with AWeber already, IContact looks like it would be a good solution. We came up with a hack first, and then my husband (the programmer) came up with another solution. This technique might be helpful for future versions of FM (?) so I'm posting the link to an article he wrote about it here. And for posterity in case anyone else tries to use AWeber with FormMaster.

Posting to an Off-Site Page in Dot Net Nuke by James H. Byrd
http://www.nerdymusings.com/LPMArti....asp?ID=20

So far it seems to be working great. We've gotten a number of subscribes already. Of course, I'm going to be watching it *really* closely this time ;-)

For the record, I am still using FM...it's working great for my Contact form and my Join Now forms.

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